Put a Jura E8 next to a Profitec MOVE and the price tags suggest a close call: roughly $1,399-$1,599 against roughly $2,249. But those two numbers are not buying the same thing. The E8’s price is the whole story - grinder, milk system, everything in one box. The MOVE’s price is chapter one of a shopping list that still needs a grinder, a scale, a knock box, and a pitcher before it makes its first cappuccino.
This page does the accounting the spec sheets skip: the true day-one cost of each setup, the counter space the complete station actually claims, and what each side costs to run per year - with sources for every figure and a calculator you can bend to your own numbers.
The Complete-in-One-Box Side
Jura E8 - Grinder, Espresso, and Milk Included
27 one-touch specialties in the current 5th-gen model, built-in grinder, HP3 milk system. The sticker price is the setup price.
Quick Answer
Buy the Profitec MOVE if espresso is your hobby: it is a compact dual-boiler with PID control, a commercial 58 mm portafilter, and a quality ceiling the E8 cannot reach - but the complete setup runs roughly $2,900 and claims most of a counter section. Buy the Jura E8 if you want excellent one-touch drinks, milk included, for roughly $1,400-$1,600 all-in and 11 inches of counter. Run the setup-cost calculator below with your own numbers - the gap is bigger than the sticker prices suggest.
Who Each Machine Is For
The Profitec MOVE is a German-built prosumer dual-boiler for someone who wants to pull shots, not press buttons. Its spec sheet reads like a small cafe machine scaled for a kitchen: a 0.4-liter brass brew boiler plus a separate 0.75-liter stainless steam and hot water boiler, programmable PID temperature control for both via an OLED display, adjustable pre-infusion, volumetric shot programming, and a commercial 58 mm bottomless portafilter with 7, 14, and 21-gram baskets in the box. Nothing about milk is automated - steaming happens on a no-burn articulating wand, by hand. And nothing about grinding is included: the MOVE assumes you bring your own burr grinder, which is standard for this class and central to the math on this page.
The Jura E8 is a Swiss super-automatic that collapses the entire station into one appliance. Press a button and it grinds fresh beans on its built-in Professional Aroma Grinder, brews with Jura’s Pulse Extraction Process, and - for milk drinks - draws and froths milk through the HP3 system in the same sequence. The current 5th-generation model runs 27 specialties one-touch. Our full Jura E8 review covers it in depth.
Both machines chase the same buyer: someone ready to spend serious money on daily espresso at home. They just disagree about what that money should buy - control or completeness.
Looking for the Pro 300?
If you arrived here searching for the Profitec Pro 300, here is the short version: Profitec discontinued it, and the MOVE is its direct successor. The MOVE carries over the Pro 300’s core concept - a compact dual boiler with a saturated-style group and PID control - and adds a fast heat-up mode (9 minutes to espresso-ready instead of 15), OLED-based controls, volumetric shot programming, and automatic brew group cleaning. The Pro 300 sold for roughly $1,849 before discontinuation; the MOVE launched around $1,999 and sits at about $2,249 at authorized US retailers as of this writing. Remaining Pro 300 stock still surfaces occasionally, but for a comparison against a current Jura E8, the MOVE is the machine that matters.
Spec Table: Sourced, Side by Side
Prices are approximate street prices at the time of checking and move often - use the price links for current figures. Every figure below is sourced at the end of this article.
| Spec | Jura E8 | Profitec MOVE |
|---|---|---|
| Type | Super-automatic (bean to cup) | Semi-automatic prosumer dual-boiler |
| Approx. machine price | ~$1,399-$1,599 | ~$2,249 |
| Grinder | Built in (Professional Aroma Grinder, P.A.G.2) | None - separate grinder required (~$449-$549 for the class we model below) |
| Heating | Thermoblock | Dual boiler: 0.4 L brass brew + 0.75 L stainless steam/hot water, PID for both |
| Brew group | Internal, automatic dosing and tamping | Commercial 58 mm; bottomless portafilter with 7/14/21 g baskets and blind filter included |
| Milk | HP3 one-touch milk system | Manual no-burn steam wand, dedicated 0.75 L steam boiler |
| Extraction control | Preset programs: strength, volume, temperature | Full manual: adjustable pre-infusion, volumetric dosing buttons, shot timer |
| Heat-up | Under a minute, on demand | 15 min standard; 9 min to espresso with fast heat-up mode |
| Water tank | 1.9 L (64 oz) | 2.8 L, with built-in water filter adapter |
| Dimensions (W x H x D) | 11 x 13.8 x 17.6 in | 10.6 x 17.5 x 14.8 in (machine only, without portafilter) |
| Weight | 22.1 lb (10 kg) | 41.2 lb (18.7 kg) |
| Power | 1450 W (120 V) | 1600 W (115 V, US version) |
The table looks close in places. The next section is where the two machines stop being comparable line by line, because one column is a complete setup and the other is a down payment on one.
The Real Price Tag: What Each Setup Costs All-In
Here is the math the sticker prices hide, using mid-2026 US street prices and stating every assumption.
Jura E8 setup: the machine, roughly $1,399-$1,599 on Amazon depending on generation and finish. That is the complete list. Grinder, milk system, and dosing are internal; nothing else is required to make the full drink menu on day one.
Profitec MOVE setup: roughly $2,249 for the machine at authorized US retailers. Add a grinder worthy of a dual-boiler - the commonly recommended class is a small flat-burr espresso grinder like the Eureka Mignon Specialita, which runs about $549 at Clive Coffee and roughly $449-$549 across retailers depending on finish. Profitec does include a tamper, a bottomless portafilter, three baskets, and a blind filter, which is a genuinely generous box. Most owners still add a scale, a knock box, and a milk pitcher - call it $100 as our estimate. Day-one total: roughly $2,900.
That puts the honest gap between these two setups at roughly $1,300-$1,500 on day one - not the $650-$850 the machine prices alone suggest. If you are weighing whether either number makes sense at all, our is Jura worth the price breakdown runs the against-the-coffee-shop math.
Running costs then diverge in the other direction, modestly. The E8’s care products (CLARIS water filters, cleaning tablets, milk system cleaner) run roughly $80-$120 per year in our estimate. The MOVE’s consumables - backflush detergent for its cleaning cycle, a tank water filter, descaling supplies, occasional gaskets - run roughly $50-$80 per year in our estimate. Beans cost the same on both sides, so we exclude them. The MOVE clawing back $30-$50 a year against a $1,400 day-one deficit is a very slow comeback: the gap is still four figures after five years.
Run it yourself:
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Total Setup Cost: E8 vs MOVE + Grinder + Accessories
Jura E8 Side
Profitec MOVE Side
| Total Cost | Jura E8 | MOVE Setup | Difference |
|---|---|---|---|
| Day one | |||
| After 1 year | |||
| After 3 years | |||
| After 5 years |
How the math works (no black box)
- E8 total after N years = machine price + N x yearly care products.
- MOVE total after N years = machine price + grinder + accessories + N x yearly consumables.
- Beans are excluded on both sides - both machines grind whole beans, so bean spend is identical and cancels out.
- Defaults are mid-2026 approximate US street prices (sources at the end of this article). The accessory bundle and both yearly consumable figures are our own estimates - edit them freely.
- Electricity, resale value, and repairs are ignored on both sides.
Did the Day-One Row Decide It?
The E8 Is the All-In Price Winner by Four Figures
Grinder and milk system included, roughly $1,400 less as a complete setup. Prices move - check the current one.
Counter Space: One Box vs a Three-Piece Station
Both of these machines get called compact, and both claims are true - until you count everything that has to sit on the counter.
The MOVE alone actually beats the E8 on footprint: 10.6 by 14.8 inches (about 157 square inches) against the E8’s 11 by 17.6 inches (about 194 square inches). But the MOVE never lives alone. The Specialita-class grinder adds a 4.75 by 5.5 inch footprint beside it, you need at least a couple of inches of working gap between them, and manual espresso needs a prep zone - somewhere to set the scale, tamp the portafilter, and park the knock box. Add it up and a workable MOVE station claims roughly 26 to 30 inches of continuous counter run. The E8 claims 11 inches, plus normal clearance to pull the water tank and drip tray.
Height cuts the same way. The MOVE stands about 17.5 inches tall before the portafilter, and US upper cabinets commonly sit around 18 inches above the counter - which means the MOVE often cannot live under the cabinets at all, and top-up access to its tank makes that worse. The E8 at 13.8 inches slides under with room to spare. Depth is the one dimension the MOVE wins cleanly: 14.8 inches against the E8’s 17.6, which matters on shallow counters.
If counter space is the binding constraint in your kitchen, this comparison is close to decided before taste enters it - and our best Jura for small kitchens guide goes further down the compact path than the E8 if 11 inches is still too many.
What the Spec Sheets Say About the Cup
We have not bench-tested the MOVE, so this section is analysis of confirmed hardware, not tasting notes.
Espresso. The MOVE’s spec sheet is a list of quality-ceiling ingredients: a brass brew boiler under PID control for temperature stability, adjustable pre-infusion, a commercial 58 mm portafilter, and a bottomless portafilter in the box that exposes every extraction flaw so you can fix it. Paired with a capable flat-burr grinder, that hardware can produce shots beyond what any super-automatic extracts - if you supply the skill, and after a learning curve measured in bags of beans. The E8’s Pulse Extraction Process and P.A.G.2 grinder produce genuinely good espresso with machine consistency: the same shot every time, from any user, with no technique. The MOVE’s floor is lower than the E8’s and its ceiling is higher. That trade is the whole category, and our super-automatic vs semi-automatic guide maps it in full. For a dual-boiler with even more of that control exposed - a flow-profiling paddle and independent brew/steam PID - see our Jura E8 vs Lelit Bianca V3 comparison.
Milk. The MOVE has zero milk automation. Its dedicated 0.75-liter steam boiler feeds a no-burn articulating wand, and manufacturer specs stop there - the microfoam is up to you. A practiced hand on a dedicated steam boiler can produce latte-art texture no automatic frother matches; an unpracticed hand produces bubbles. The E8’s HP3 system makes cappuccinos, flat whites, and latte macchiatos in one button press, identically, for anyone in the house. Multi-latte households should weight this heavily.
Workflow. A MOVE morning is a sequence: machine pre-heated (15 minutes standard, 9 with fast heat-up - owners typically schedule it), grind, dose, tamp, pull, steam, purge, knock, rinse. An E8 morning is a button. We built a full minute-by-minute model of exactly this difference for the MOVE’s closest rival - the Jura E8 vs Rancilio Silvia Pro X active-time model - and the numbers transfer almost unchanged to any manual dual-boiler workflow: roughly an hour more hands-on time per week at two drinks a day. We will not repeat that math here; this page owns the money and the counter, that page owns the minutes.
Where the MOVE Wins
Being specific about this is the point of the page:
- Quality ceiling. Dual boilers, PID on both, adjustable pre-infusion, and a commercial 58 mm group: with a good grinder and practice, the MOVE can extract espresso the E8’s presets cannot reach. If you can taste the difference between a 27 and a 31-second shot, only one of these machines lets you chase it.
- Real steam. A dedicated 0.75-liter steam boiler drives proper microfoam and simultaneous brew-and-steam, cafe style. The texture ceiling for lattes is simply higher than any one-touch system, the E8 included.
- A generous box. Bottomless portafilter, three baskets, blind filter, and tamper included is better than most rivals in its class manage - the accessory bill we model above is real but modest.
- Serviceability and upgrades. The 58 mm commercial standard means cheap, ubiquitous baskets, gaskets, and tampers, and the machine rewards every upgrade you feed it over the years. A prosumer dual-boiler is a rebuildable long-term tool in a way a sealed super-automatic is not.
- Bigger tank, smarter details. A 2.8-liter tank with a built-in filter adapter, volumetric dosing, automatic brew group cleaning, and a 9-minute fast heat-up are genuine daily-life improvements over the Pro 300 generation - this is a thoroughly modern manual machine, not nostalgia hardware.
Where the E8 Wins
- All-in price. Roughly $1,400-$1,600 complete versus roughly $2,900 for the MOVE station at our checked prices. The E8 wins the total-setup-cost comparison by four figures, and the MOVE’s slightly cheaper consumables never close that gap.
- Counter space as a system. One 11-inch box versus a 26-30 inch three-piece station, and it fits under standard upper cabinets. In most kitchens this is the difference between “fits” and “negotiation with the toaster.”
- Milk without skill. One-touch cappuccinos for every member of the household on day one. No wand technique, no practice milk down the drain.
- Ready when you are. On-demand heat-up in under a minute versus a 9-15 minute warm-up (or leaving a 1600 W machine on a schedule).
- Time. The manual workflow costs roughly an hour more per week at two drinks a day per our active-time model. Over five years that is real life, not rounding.
- No second decision. The MOVE forces a grinder-shopping research project before the first shot. The E8’s grinder question was answered in the factory.
The Verdict
The Profitec MOVE is the better espresso instrument; the Jura E8 is the better espresso answer. If pulling shots is the hobby you are buying - and roughly $2,900 plus a counter section plus a learning curve reads as a fair ticket - the MOVE is a superb modern dual-boiler and nothing on this page argues otherwise.
But this page’s framework is the honest ledger, and the ledger is lopsided: the E8 delivers the complete result - grinder, espresso, one-touch milk - for about $1,400 less, in a third of the counter space, with none of the skill requirement. For every household that wants excellent coffee more than it wants a craft, that is the whole decision.
FAQ
Did the Profitec MOVE replace the Pro 300?
Yes. The Pro 300 is discontinued and the MOVE is its direct successor: the same compact dual-boiler concept plus fast heat-up, OLED controls, volumetric programming, and automatic brew group cleaning. Shoppers who saved a Pro 300 comparison should read it as a MOVE comparison now.
How much does a complete MOVE setup really cost?
Roughly $2,900 at our checked mid-2026 prices: about $2,249 for the machine, $449-$549 for a Specialita-class grinder, and about $100 in accessories (our estimate). The calculator above lets you rerun it with your own picks.
Do I need a separate grinder with the MOVE?
Yes - there is no built-in grinder, and a dual-boiler machine only performs with a quality burr grinder feeding it. Budget several hundred dollars.
Which setup takes more counter space?
The MOVE station: roughly 26-30 inches of counter run once the grinder and prep area are counted, and at about 17.5 inches tall it is tight under standard upper cabinets. The E8 does everything in one 11-inch-wide, 13.8-inch-tall box.
Can the MOVE make milk drinks automatically?
No. Milk is steamed entirely by hand on its wand. The ceiling (true microfoam) is higher than the E8’s HP3 system; the floor and the effort are what you trade for it.
Which machine makes better espresso?
On the spec sheets, the MOVE has the higher ceiling and the E8 has the higher floor. A practiced user with a good grinder will pull better shots on the MOVE; everyone else gets better, more consistent drinks from the E8 - including at 6:30 am, half asleep.
Decided on the Complete Package?
Jura E8 - The Whole Station in One Box
Built-in grinder, 27 one-touch specialties, HP3 milk system, 11 inches of counter. Roughly $1,400 less than the MOVE setup all-in - prices move often, check the current one.
Check E8 Price on Amazon →For how Jura compares against other brands beyond Profitec, see our full competitor comparison guide.
All prices are approximate street prices that change frequently - use the price buttons on this page for current figures. The accessory bundle ($100) and both yearly consumable figures ($80-$120 E8 care products, $50-$80 MOVE consumables) are our own estimates, stated in the calculator’s formula box. Counter-run figures combine manufacturer dimensions with our own working-gap and prep-area estimates. We have not bench-tested the Profitec MOVE - all cup-quality discussion is analysis of manufacturer-stated hardware, not tasting results. Specifications last checked: July 2026.
Complete Station, One Box
Jura E8
Roughly $1,400 less all-in, grinder and milk system included.
Check E8 Price on Amazon →Higher Ceiling, Full Manual Control
Profitec MOVE
Dual boiler, PID, commercial 58 mm group - bring your own grinder.
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